What Did I Believe Immediately After Leaving the Message?

James Rozak

Creator of Morning Mercy & Former Message Associate Pastor.

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10 Responses

  1. Elsie says:

    I would love to thank you for this article indeed it helped me a lot since I have been struggling about leaving the message of the hour..my husband was a deacon and everything was fine things went bitter after he lost his job no one was willing to associate with our family as we were leaving life of poverty.
    You won’t believe if I say to you right now that people who are helping us is Christian from what we call (denominations) where is my pastor or so called brothers and sisters as we were told that if you’re a believer everyone in Church is ur family but I don’t see that now…my family is being helped by strangers.. My Husband it’s like doubting everything since we used to believe every teachings of bro branham but now me I’m no longer interested and I have asked GOD to guide me also give my Husband hope so that he can trust God again..it hurts me when I see him spending more time on useless things than to read the Bible. .plz Sir pray for my Family we need GOD guidance. His holy spirit we need him more than before… GOD BLESS YOU

  2. Hi James

    A very interesting site. I am presently in the process of leaving a splinter group from the ‘message’. I identify and agree with much of what you have written on this site.

    One interesting deviation you and I have is that in the process of coming to the conclusion that Branham was a fraud, (and I use that term freely) I also dug even deeper into claims the bible itself makes. I now find no grounds for the existence of any god(s) let alone his prophet. From your site you seemed to have retained a belief in God which I find interesting considering you have come out from what is probably one of the most extreme Christian offshoots.

    I’d be interested as to why you retained a belief in God, and what version of Christianity you identify with.

    Regards
    LogicalFallacy

  3. Hello James, I have left the message. I just wanted you to know. Too many problems and contradictions. I am 59 and have been exposed to the message sence I was 16. I have made a little blog about what I believe. I hope you enjoy it!
    http://www.gregsweb.blogspot.com

  4. Joseph says:

    Wow, another website designed to garner attention and pity from a disheartened Christian. Oh James, I had such high hopes for you……

  5. James Rozak says:

    Dear Joseph,

    I am supposing you might know me personally, from the way you’ve addressed me. Thank you – for your hope in me, and I am sorry that I disappoint you. However, though we assuredly have different opinions – I don’t think it’s fair to suggest a difference of opinion demonstrates a lack of sincerity. I believe, wholeheartedly, that the people I once walked with in the Message are sincerely believing and doing their best. I believe that despite the fact I disagree with the Message. I still tune into message sermons now and then – and I listen with ears that remembers the phrases, the atmosphere, the sincerity. I simply wish they might have come to the same conclusion I did about William Branham, if they had weighed the information I did contesting his ministry.

    So – do you assume I am only seeking pity and attention? You don’t suppose I actually care for people who may be taking the road I did, and who are about to undergo the most painful emotional experience of their life? I am sorry you think so. In any case – I hope you, Joseph, are happy and well in your journey. Blessings to you!

  6. Trina says:

    Can you please tell me which accounts we DO know to be true, concerning WMB? You pointed this is out in your details in #2.
    Thanks.

  7. James Rozak says:

    I just want to be clear; when I wrote this “Statement of Faith”, it was not even a week after I had left my church. I didn’t leave because I had absolute clarity on who William Branham was. I was not yet willing to say even William Branham was a false prophet, or how my concerns impacted my views of the Malachi 4 prophecy. My position at that time was that the Message followers (myself included) were being shockingly dishonest and willfully blind to not acknowledge the substantial problems that had been exposed. My concern was so significant, I was willing to surrender my ministry and lose my place in the community – regardless of the cost.

    When I said that “WE DO KNOW” there were accounts which were true, I did so genuinely believing that William Branham was still a powerful man of God, and many of the things he said must have been true. It was as much as I knew at that time. I was trying desperately to maintain a bridge between where I was and what I formerly believed; I didn’t want to lose my amazement and respect for this man whom I held in such regard. I also felt that expressing as much respect as possible for William Branham would allow me to maintain bridges with my former friends and relationships in the church.

    However, none of those sentiments of hope and respect are rooted in reality. One of the most powerful things about leaving the message is the freedom of mind that occurs: you can begin to think without constraints or pressure to hold together the pieces of the Message that were confusing, vague, fragmented and broken. I could look at things critically and honestly. My opinion is – it’s hard to know if anything is true at all. I do not believe he foretold a single credible prophecy that came to pass. Yes, he told stories about real people and, in many cases, actual events. But based on examination of his words, his proclivity towards dishonesty, embellishment, incorrect facts and fear tactics – there was little, if anything, about his claims that can be verified. In other words, for myself, I cannot name any accounts which I count as being “true”.

    Thank you for the question!

  8. James says:

    Hi. It is always good to air out your opinions. William Branham did not tell us to follow him, rather he pointed the world to Christ. I am a message believer as you so call them. Now note that those who believe the message and don’t see Christ through the message are very wrong. Now let me shock you, you cannot follow the bible in its entirety without the light of the message, otherwise it will appear to contradict, which cannot be provided it is the word of God. For the many doctrines in the message, don’t blame the message rather blame the the people. Can you blame Jesus yet Judas was his treasurer? Point one place where the prophet said he was above the Bible. In fact he said that for Him and his congregation, the Bible is the absolute. The message of the Hour is back to the Bible, and not everybody in the message of the hour is the bride of Christ. I don’t think there is another truth of the Bible outside the message of the hour. Don’t follow the people in the message, follow the message, and it will lead you to Christ. It is not a replacement of the Bible as many of its believers think, but to the true believer, it is back to the Bible.

  9. James Rozak says:

    Greeting, James – thank you for your comment and desire to present a viewpoint. I feel you wrote in concern, and I always appreciate that. I also can assure you that nothing you wrote was a shock – nor was it anything I hadn’t said myself when I was a minister in the message.

    I think the difference we have comes to a collision in the opinion we have of ‘the prophet’. You asked me to point one place where he placed himself above the bible – and I don’t necessarily think that it the way of looking at it. He did not need to make himself ‘above it’ – he just needed to make himself ‘equal to it’. When the bible is ‘the top’ authority, being equal to it is all that is needed to assume that authority. You yourself have said that the “message” is the ONLY way back to the bible. That alone places ‘the prophet’ in a position where he is THE doorway and THE ultimate authority. For as the prophet said many times – the Message and the Messenger are one. To reject the messenger is to reject the message. If you esteem the message as being the only way to the bible – then how highly do you have to place the prophet? How can you then freely respond when someone, truthfully, can show you failures, lies and deception in the testimony and account of William Branham? You can only ignore, turn away, deny and refuse to look or question – instead having to devise ways to explain away to one’s own satisfaction.

    One does not need to deny all things that William Branham taught. You can believe passionately the premise of living a holy life and the power of God – as many Christians do outside of the message. You can legitimately feel that the fire in the church has fallen into lukewarmness. But holding these views should not be required to swallow all that this ‘prophet’ claimed and spoke – to the point of absurdity and blind devotion.

    I wish you well, sir – despite our difference. 🙂

  10. Sarah says:

    Hi James,
    Thank you for writing this post and replying to the comments. I have been struggling with being in the message for years after marrying my husband. If you were not born in the message, some of the doctrine can be a little difficult to understand and accept. I do believe he was used by God but I can’t see him being the only way to God. I want to leave the church but the guilt and disappointment is what is keeping me there. I appreciate your post as it gives the reader an alternate viewpoint to making an objective decision without being overly cynical.

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